Yankees, Reds Working On Trade For Bronson Arroyo

by Matt Buggenhagen on Jul 27, 2009 6:39 PM EDT

The Yankees and Reds are seriously discussing a Bronson Arroyo trade, this according to Jeff Fletcher of AOL FanHouse.

A source in the story indicates that the deal may be hinging on how much of Arroyo's contract the Reds are willing to eat, which equates to roughly $4 million. Additionally, Arroyo is due $11 million in 2010 and $11 million in 2011, which contains a $2 million buyout.

Arroyo, 32, has been very inconsistent for the Reds this year posting a 10-9 record with a 5.21 ERA.

Furthermore, Fletcher said, Reds top officials met via conference call this morning and according to one MLB source they were "close to a deal." Subsequently, Arroyo has been removed from the Reds starting pitcher for Tuesday.

Ultimately, I have trouble understanding how this deal makes sense for the Yankees. I understand they're looking to add depth in the rotation, but Bronson Arroyo?

Arroyo, statistically speaking would probably be a train wreck for the Yankees. His numbers are well above average (in a bad way) in almost every advanced pitching statistic. Arroyo has allowed roughly 1.59 HR/9, which is considerably higher than the league average 1.03 (understandably he's in a bad pitchers park now). I wonder what would happen to that number in Yankee Stadium. That's not even mentioning the money, which is for a whole different day.

I understand he does have experience pitching in the AL East during his time with the Red Sox, but that does nothing for the Yankees. The Yankees would be better off making an offer for Jarrod Washburn and having it rejected than they would accepting a trade offer for Bronson Arroyo.

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why NYYwill win the east regardless.

and arroyo wont make them better in the playoffs…

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions

I have no idea

I thought of a million different ways to make this make sense and I just couldn’t.

by Matt Buggenhagen on Jul 27, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah...

No clue what’s going on up there.

by Bloggy on Jul 27, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions

does wang's injury make that much of a mess in the rotation?

haha wang…

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 27, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Did you make an innuenda?

chuckle

Carlos Guillen, the Latino Punto

by The_Fan on Jul 28, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes!

yes i did :P

They want power, We want respect...

by SenorChuckles on Jul 28, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Doug Davis or Jon Garland would be better fits for the Yankees.

by 49er16 on Jul 27, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions

I don't understand how it doesn't make sense?

Yanks aren’t looking for a #1 starter, nor are they even looking for a 3!

Arroyo is a flexible pitcher in that he can throw every 5th day or even be a long man out of the pen. He’s not gonna cost a big time prospect, not even a mid level one probably.

Change of scenery did him well when he went to the Reds and Red Sox previously, so maybe it does so again.

I think the Yanks make a few more deals like this one too in order to shore up the pitchers. Even simply to store them in AAA so that they can use one when they decide on what to do with Joba and his rules.

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions

The Money

Is the main reason this doesn’t make sense. I’m sure Arroyo could be a decent fifth starter, but paying a fifth starter $11 million a year is ridiculous. This is exactly what the Yankees were supposed to be getting away from.

by Matt Buggenhagen on Jul 27, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

It doesn't matter anyway

I think the Yanks shout the rumor down anyway.

Wasn’t really much to get ""hopes up"" anyway so eh…

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions

but its the yankees

they have enough money for everything, no one is unbyable in their books

Carlos Guillen, the Latino Punto

by The_Fan on Jul 28, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I wonder what would happen to that number in Yankee Stadium

This is absolutely right. Left handed power hitters have been the beneficiaries of the new Yankee stadium, and, as a flyball pitcher who struggles against lefties, Arroyo makes no sense to me.

Pete Rose was actually banned from baseball for teaching Jeff Francoeur how to play. He made up the gambling stuff to hide his shame.

by VivaLosBravos on Jul 27, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions

FYI

Looks like their was an error on the Reds part listing tomorrow’s starter as TBA. Mark Sheldon of MLB.com tweets that Arroyo is now back on to start tomorrow.

by Matt Buggenhagen on Jul 27, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions

I've said this before....

And yeah, I know that most probably don’t appreciate silly things like “fanboy emotions” around these parts, but as a Sox fan who invested a lot mentally and emotionally back in ’04, I have a hard time seeing Arroyo in pinstripes.

And by that, I don’t want that vision in my mind.

by Bloggy on Jul 27, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions

never fear

that contract and the stench of the Red Sox uniform probably cause Cashman to say no, even if they offered only a Low A prospect

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

As a Yankees fan....

…..I don’t want you to have that vision either. Hell, I don’t want that vision. I screamed “Why?!” at the computer when I read this. Cashman, you were doing so good…..a horrible 5th starter is enough to depreciate the value of all the other pitchers on the staff, screw what you heard.

by ROCNation on Jul 28, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions