Reds Interested in Matt Holliday, Vernon Wells, Alex Rios and Gary Matthews Jr.
According to the Columbus Post Dispatch, the Cincinnati Reds may be in the market for a big bat, most notably Oakland A's slugger Matt Holliday.
Holliday has been the subject of several trade rumors this year; however, he may not be the only player the Reds are targeting. Apparently the Reds also have similar interest in Blue Jays outfielders Vernon Wells and Alex Rios, along with Angels outfielder Gary Matthews Jr.
The Reds, following a 10-1 defeat to the Cardinals last night sit at a dead even 40-40, and are three games out of first place. The Reds have failed to make the postseason since 1995, so this may be the time to make a run for it.
In the current economic climate it's always difficult to gauge who in fact is willing to add payroll, but according to Reds owner Bob Castellini, the Reds are one of those few teams that have that luxury.
Now when you talk about acquiring players of this caliber more often than not it's going to take substantial prospects in addition to absorbing payroll. A's GM Billy Beane has made it clear that he is looking for two major league ready prospects at the minimum in exchange for Holliday, and while I imagine Blue Jays GM J.P. Riccardi would love to move Vernon Wells contract, he's not going to just give him away.
The Reds have apparently been active so far this summer; they were believed to be one of the finalists for Mark DeRosa, ultimately to lose out to the Cardinals. The activity should give Reds fan's clear indication that this team is willing to upgrade and make a run for the postseason.
Ultimately, I'm not sure I can see the Reds parting with any significant prospects in order to obtain Holliday, Wells or Rios. They seem to be in a similar position as the Brewers were last year. The Brewers, who elected to make a postseason run, gave up highly touted prospect Matt LaPorta in order to obtain C.C Sabathia. The quick fix allowed the Brewers to make the postseason, only to be eliminated in the first round. As we all know Sabathia left following the season and signed with the Yankees.
At the end of the day Reds ownership and management are going to have to get together and really evaluate this team. If they truly believe they are one bat away from having a shot at winning it all, then you make the move; however, if this is going to be a three month rental at the expense of a top prospect than you pull back. If the Reds failure to acquire DeRosa tells us anything, it at least tells us that the Reds are really evaluating these players, and not necessarily willing to mortgage the future at any cost.
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Holliday would do great in there ballpark
by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jul 6, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
I think any package would start with Homer Bailey, but in the case of Billy Beane I imagine it would take more.
by Matt Buggenhagen on Jul 6, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Easily
The cheapest package I would see would have to include homer Bailey, Chris Dickerson, and 1 High Upside prospect at the very least
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
I just thought that could be a start I am not familiar with there farm system
by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jul 6, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
neither am I
I’m just saying that Beane is extreme and he is always raking in a lot. Im not critizing u
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
i love your Yogi Berra quote
by Heyward is the next crime dog on Jul 6, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you
some people on the different sites have funny ones too
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
its like the NFL
everyone has a chance……….except the Pirates
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
Is it worth it?
If Beane holds to his 2 MLB ready players, Bailey is probably one of them to go in a deal for Holliday. Heck he could probably get away with Dickerson as well and then one lower level prospect in High A ball right now.
Holliday would definitely play huge in GAB, but the division could be won with a good hot streak without adding talent. Reds already have one of the best rotations in the division and a few key bats.
GABP is a launching pad just like coors
Holliday would fit there
I was thinking
even though the Red Sox are making a run once again, Jason Bay said he might not resign. He might be a good cheap rental. GMAB will boost his poor numbers
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra
read the entire article
Hunter doesnt say the Reds are explicitly interested in any of these guys, but more that if the Reds were going to go after a bat these are the names that have been bandied around.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 6, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
I know this Reds team...VERY well!!
Considering Harrang and Arroyo are almost certainly on their way out of Cincy, I can`t see Bailey going anywhere. In his last start he gave us Reds fans a taste of whats to come, in fact he was flat out brilliant! They are very deep down on the farm, in fact they`re loaded with talent and could without a doubt put together a package for any of the players mentioned. As for Holliday, (who we would love to have!)I`d be suprised to see them make a deal for him without a contract extension and that probably won`t happen because Boras is his agent and it`s too much to ask for a 75 day rental. No way on Wells and his contract, but Rios would be very appealing!
Vernon
Riccardi would love to move Vernon Wells contract, he’s not going to just give him away.
Trust me, he would. Offer JP a “might miss” prospect, and you have yourself an underachieving centerfielder
Happiness is a long walk with a putter in your hand.
by craig in calgary on Jul 6, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
For Holliday
I would be shocked if the reds didn’t throw in at least 1 of their 3 3B prospects (Frazier, Francisco & Soto) although Frazier is playing OF now.
Grab Some Pine Meat!
From the A's standpoint I would love to see Bailey and Frazier for Holliday.
I dont know if the Reds will go for that though. They will most likely need Bailey after this year.
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
Here's a Reds-A's trade scenario that could be possible
Matt Holliday for Juan Francisco, Chris Heisey and Daryl Thompson… I don’t know if the Reds would be willing to give up all those guys though.
Grab Some Pine Meat!
The Reds can take Wells and Rios...
In exchange for Joey Votto. And then candy will fall from the sky all across Canada.
(Trading Votto to Toronto isn’t as crazy as it sounds, given his mental health issues. If he can’t play in Cincinnati, then he’s no good to them.)
by EastCoastJaysFan on Jul 8, 2009 12:22 AM EDT reply actions
The air must be a little thin up there...
JoVo isn`t going anywhere…..HAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!! Now that`s FUNNY!!!!!

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