Bengie Molina wants two-year extension
Impending free agent Bengie Molina is hoping the Giants will offer him a two-year extension, the San Jose Mercury News is reporting. While Molina's offensive numbers are not as impressive as they have been in years past, the work he has done with the pitching staff cannot go unnoticed.
"Without question he gets credit," Bochy said. "Timmy's not easy to catch. He's got movement, he throws a lot of pitches in the dirt and he's got confidence throwing those with Bengie behind the plate.
Molina doesn't walk much, walking only 10 times this season. He has struck out 52 times, one short of his career high. Molina has a very aggressive approach at the plate, but BABIP hovers at disappointing .266. He is hitting just .234 with runners in scoring position this season, putting his true productivity into question.
Molina has worked wonders with the Giants' young pitching staff. Not only do Giants pitchers lead the league in ERA, complete games, shutouts, and least amount of earned runs surrendered, but two Giants starters - Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum - are in the top 5 for ERA, innings pitched, and complete games. Credit the two promising young pitchers, but some of that credit goes to their veteran catcher.
"They're focused and they have a good relationship, a good feel for each other. Bengie helps them become the pitchers that they are."
Signing Molina for two years makes sense for both sides. Molina could be relatively productive while continuing his work with the young pitchers as well as top prospect Buster Posey, who is hitting .319 in 26 games for Triple-A Fresno with 4 home runs, 18 runs, and 7 stolen bases.
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No. No no no no no
Absolutely, positively no.
I will be enraged if the Giants extend Bengie by 2 years. They should let his contract expire and offer him arbitration. If he leaves, great; pick up a stopgap veteran on a one year deal. If he signs, OK and he can start the year as the regular catcher. Either way,the vet will just be keeping the seat warm until Buster Posey takes over.
Waiting for Giants and Niners to contend once more.
Meh, I’m not really sold on Molina having that much of an effect on the pitching to sign him to a 2 year deal when they have Posey. I guess if it was made clear that Molina would be a backup eventually, it could be fine.
by Gorkys n' Beans on Aug 21, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
Depends on conditions
First off, Bengie should understand that he won’t be a near everyday player for the Giants, being part of a part-time by as early as the middle of next season, and possibly a backup in 2011. I think the latter part makes a 2 year extension all but impossible as the Giants won’t look to pay starting money for a backup catcher and Bengie will balk at receiving backup salary. Perhaps a mutual or club option for 2011 can be arranged.
Either way, the amount of playing time Bengie gets will be dependent on Posey’s progress and readiness to play in SF. I would guess he’d start next season in Fresno, but (barring a total regression) be called up at some point before September. At that poi’nt, Buster would need to play on a consistent basis: there no reason to call him up to not play. Bengie would be a part-time player at that point.
if he’s willing to play the role of veteran player mentoring young players, then I think he’d be a very valuable component of the team. But that player needs to recognize that they’ll only be playing 1/2 the time at most, potentially even less, and put team first and not worry about playing time and personal statistics. By 2011 he would be in the Brad Ausmus or David Ross role.
If Bengie wants starting catcher money for 2 guaranteed seasons, then there’s no way. Looking around the league at the money catchers are making, I’m thinking $3.5M-4M a year is reasonable for 2 years. Bengie almost certainly won’t be worth $4M by 2011, but the going rate for average catchers is $4-4.5M right now (Jason Kendall makes $4.5M this season).
This assumes that the Giants don’t believe either Whiteside or Holm can be counted upon as the opening day starter and need a proven veteran before Posey is ready. And if Molina’s demands are in the $5M – 6M+ range then perhaps the Giants can look at Jason Kendall. He should make less than his 4.5M next year, and he could certainly provide an example to the Giants hitters on how to take a walk and get on base!
I'm ok with offering Molina arbitration...
If he excepts then he needs to understand he is only starting till June 1st when Posey will be up. If he declines, well then we get the comp picks.
If he does come back he better NOT be used as the cleanup hitter ever again! Those days have passed him by
Bochy
Where Bengie would hit would be up to the manager, so we can’t fault him for Bochy trotting him out in the cleanup spot every day.
If we assume we want our best hitter (Pablo) at #3, then there’s as much of an argument for hitting Molina cleanup as there is batting him #6 or even #7. I personally think this Giants team is so weak-hitting that the traditional definition of the cleanup hitter as the “big slugger” (Bengie is 2nd on the team in both HRs and RBIs) on the team doesn’t apply. No one on the team, once you exclude Sandoval, qualifies as even a mediocre cleanup hitter. Last year, Bengie could be considered a mediocre cleanup hitter, but he was by far the best Giant hitter for that job. But he hit nearly 300 and was on base at a.320 clip. Dropping 40-50 pts off average and OBP, and at a sub 280 OBP you can’t really hit anywhere higher than 6th.
The Giants can, and likely will, offer arbitration, but I don’t think Bengie takes it. He wants 2 years and arbitration would only give him 1.
Excuse my French, but Fuck That
Molina is getting older and he is too streaky as a hitter. Plus Posey will be coming up soon.

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